diff --git a/rendering_api/metal/src/core/debugger/metal_debugger.m b/rendering_api/metal/src/core/debugger/metal_debugger.m
index 77dc534..eec1f25 100644
--- a/rendering_api/metal/src/core/debugger/metal_debugger.m
+++ b/rendering_api/metal/src/core/debugger/metal_debugger.m
@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
 #include <core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.h>
 
 // these do nothing because I am too lazy to write a debugger for metal at this point in time
-gnReturnCode gnCreateDebuggerFn(gnDebugger* debugger, gnInstanceHandle instance, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info) {
+gnReturnCode gnCreateDebuggerFn(gnDebuggerHandle debugger, gnInstanceHandle instance, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info) {
     return GN_SUCCESS;
 }
-void gnDestroyDebuggerFn(gnDebugger* instance) {
+void gnDestroyDebuggerFn(gnDebuggerHandle instance) {
 
 }
diff --git a/rendering_api/vulkan/src/debugger/vulkan_debugger.c b/rendering_api/vulkan/src/debugger/vulkan_debugger.c
index dbef784..f0d2bdf 100644
--- a/rendering_api/vulkan/src/debugger/vulkan_debugger.c
+++ b/rendering_api/vulkan/src/debugger/vulkan_debugger.c
@@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ void vk_destroyDebugUtilsMessengerEXT(VkInstance instance, VkDebugUtilsMessenger
     }
 }
 
-gnReturnCode gnCreateDebuggerFn(gnDebugger* debugger, gnInstanceHandle instance, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info) {
+gnReturnCode gnCreateDebuggerFn(gnDebuggerHandle debugger, gnInstanceHandle instance, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info) {
     debugger->debugger = malloc(sizeof(gnPlatformDebugger));
 
     if (instance->valid == gnFalse) {
@@ -156,6 +156,6 @@ gnReturnCode gnCreateDebuggerFn(gnDebugger* debugger, gnInstanceHandle instance,
     return GN_SUCCESS;
 }
 
-void gnDestroyDebuggerFn(gnDebugger* debugger) {
+void gnDestroyDebuggerFn(gnDebuggerHandle debugger) {
     vk_destroyDebugUtilsMessengerEXT(debugger->instance->instance->vk_instance, debugger->debugger->debugMessenger, NULL);
 }
diff --git a/src/core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.c b/src/core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.c
index 79d04e8..1568e2f 100644
--- a/src/core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.c
+++ b/src/core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.c
@@ -2,10 +2,11 @@
 #include <core/gryphn_platform_functions.h>
 #include "stdio.h"
 
-gnReturnCode gnCreateDebugger(gnDebugger* debugger, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info) {
-    debugger->info = info;
+gnReturnCode gnCreateDebugger(gnDebuggerHandle* debugger, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info) {
+    *debugger = malloc(sizeof(struct gnDebugger_t));
+    (*debugger)->info = info;
     return GN_SUCCESS;
 }
-void gnDestroyDebugger(gnDebugger* debugger) {
-    // debugger->instance->functions->_gnDestroyDebugger(debugger);
+void gnDestroyDebugger(gnDebuggerHandle debugger) {
+    free(debugger);
 }
diff --git a/src/core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.h b/src/core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.h
index 90e00c7..8b6131a 100644
--- a/src/core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.h
+++ b/src/core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.h
@@ -44,16 +44,23 @@ typedef struct gnDebuggerInfo_t {
     void* userData;
 } gnDebuggerInfo;
 
-typedef struct gnDebugger_t {
+#ifdef GN_REVEAL_IMPL
+struct gnDebugger_t {
     struct gnPlatformDebugger_t* debugger;
     struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info;
     gnInstanceHandle instance;
-} gnDebugger;
+};
+#endif
+typedef struct gnDebugger_t* gnDebuggerHandle;
+typedef gnDebuggerHandle gnDebugger;
 
-gnReturnCode gnCreateDebugger(gnDebugger* debugger, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info);
-void gnDestroyDebugger(gnDebugger* debugger);
+gnReturnCode gnCreateDebugger(gnDebuggerHandle* debugger, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info);
+void gnDestroyDebugger(gnDebuggerHandle debugger);
+
+#ifdef GN_REVEAL_IMPL
+static void gnDebuggerSetErrorMessage(gnDebuggerHandle debugger, gnMessageData data) {
+    if (debugger == NULL) return;
 
-static void gnDebuggerSetErrorMessage(gnDebugger* debugger, gnMessageData data) {
     debugger->info.callback(
         GN_MESSAGE_ERROR,
         GN_DEBUG_MESSAGE_VALIDATION,
@@ -61,3 +68,4 @@ static void gnDebuggerSetErrorMessage(gnDebugger* debugger, gnMessageData data)
         debugger->info.userData
     );
 }
+#endif
diff --git a/src/core/gryphn_platform_functions.h b/src/core/gryphn_platform_functions.h
index c887338..abb5e8b 100644
--- a/src/core/gryphn_platform_functions.h
+++ b/src/core/gryphn_platform_functions.h
@@ -23,8 +23,8 @@ typedef struct gnFunctions_t {
     gnReturnCode (*_gnCreateInstance)(gnInstanceHandle instance, struct gnInstanceInfo_t info);
     void (*_gnDestroyInstance)(gnInstanceHandle instance);
 
-    gnReturnCode (*_gnCreateDebugger)(gnDebugger* debugger, gnInstanceHandle instance, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info);
-    void (*_gnDestroyDebugger)(gnDebugger* debugger);
+    gnReturnCode (*_gnCreateDebugger)(gnDebuggerHandle debugger, gnInstanceHandle instance, const struct gnDebuggerInfo_t info);
+    void (*_gnDestroyDebugger)(gnDebuggerHandle debugger);
 
     gnPhysicalDevice* (*_gnGetPhysicalDevices)(gnInstanceHandle instance, uint32_t* count);
     gnBool (*_gnQueueCanPresentToSurface)(const struct gnPhysicalDevice_t device, uint32_t queueIndex, const struct gnWindowSurface_t windowSurface);
diff --git a/src/core/instance/gryphn_instance.c b/src/core/instance/gryphn_instance.c
index f3154a7..f1f848f 100644
--- a/src/core/instance/gryphn_instance.c
+++ b/src/core/instance/gryphn_instance.c
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 #include "init/gryphn_init.h"
 #include <core/gryphn_platform_functions.h>
 #include "core/debugger/gryphn_debugger.h"
+#include "core/instance/gryphn_instance.h"
 
 gnReturnCode gnCreateInstance(gnInstanceHandle* instanceHandlePtr, struct gnInstanceInfo_t info) {
     *instanceHandlePtr = malloc(sizeof(struct gnInstance_t));
@@ -42,4 +43,5 @@ void gnDestroyInstance(gnInstanceHandle instance) {
 
 void gnInstanceReleaseDebugger(gnInstanceHandle instance) {
     instance->debugger = NULL;
+    free(instance);
 }
diff --git a/src/core/instance/gryphn_instance.h b/src/core/instance/gryphn_instance.h
index 6e77981..72d0c30 100644
--- a/src/core/instance/gryphn_instance.h
+++ b/src/core/instance/gryphn_instance.h
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 struct gnPlatformInstance_t;
 struct gnFunctions_t;
 struct gnDynamicLibrary_t;
-struct gnDebugger_t;
+typedef struct gnDebugger_t* gnDebuggerHandle;
 
 typedef struct gnInstanceInfo_t {
     gnString  applicationName;
@@ -17,6 +17,7 @@ typedef struct gnInstanceInfo_t {
     gnRenderingAPI renderingAPI;
 } gnInstanceInfo;
 
+#ifdef GN_REVEAL_IMPL
 struct gnInstance_t {
     struct gnPlatformInstance_t* instance;
     gnBool valid,
@@ -29,12 +30,13 @@ struct gnInstance_t {
     struct gnDeviceFunctions_t* deviceFunctions;
     struct gnCommandFunctions_t* commandFunctions;
 
-    struct gnDebugger_t* debugger;
-} gnInstance_t;
-
+    gnDebuggerHandle debugger;
+};
+#endif
 typedef struct gnInstance_t* gnInstanceHandle;
+typedef struct gnInstance_t* gnInstance;
 
 gnReturnCode gnCreateInstance(gnInstanceHandle* instance, struct gnInstanceInfo_t info);
-void gnInstanceAttachDebugger(gnInstanceHandle istance, struct gnDebugger_t* debugger);
+void gnInstanceAttachDebugger(gnInstanceHandle istance, gnDebuggerHandle debugger);
 void gnInstanceReleaseDebugger(gnInstanceHandle instance);
 void gnDestroyInstance(gnInstanceHandle instance);